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Date: 2010/11/26
Subject: Re: [aryasamajonline] VEDIC CONCEPTION OF GOD ( god doesn't exist)
To: aryayouthgroup@yahoogroups.com
Cc: ramans shriman <msb931@yahoo.com>
Dear Brother Ramans Shriman ji,
I respect your spirit and views but I also expect from gentlemen use of gentle language - we all being followers of the same Vedic Ideals.
The English word "God" is used for Ishvar = Brahman by many great Vedic scholars and Translators like Pt. Ganga Prasad Upadhyay, Dr. Chiranjeev Bhardwaj, Swami Satya Prakash, Swami Vidyanand Saraswati, etc. I think even Swami Dayananda would have no objection for such use.
The book-title "Satyarth-Prakash" has been translated in many ways e.g. The Light of Truth (mostly), The Spot Light on Truth, Expose of Right Sense, etc.
On such issues we should have little liberal attitude. Dhrama, Guru, Vedic, Yoga, Sadhana, Atma - such words are now getting ground amongst English knowing people. If these are used in English in their original Sanskrit forms there would not be much difficulty in understanding.Ultimately we use language or words to convey certain ideas to others. Ideas are more important and should be given prime importance. Yes, ambiguity should be avoided as far as possible.
Thanks Brother!= Bhavesh Merja
2010/11/25 ramans shriman <msb931@yahoo.com>namaste bhavesh jiu hv once against mixed yr Macaulay rubbish into holy vedic Amrit by using the word GOD as equal to Ishwarwhy didn't to translate the word 'vedic' into some other word rather than keeping it a derivation of ved . what is the translation of ved ?????????? why didn't u use that word for ved ???????some people hv translated "Stayarth prakash" as 'light of truth'. this is rubbish. why ? coz they missed the word arth for which the holy maharishi struggled for life.(he struggled for the arth to correct it not to correct the original...)u r doing the same thing in another way.why?coz GOD doesn't exist........hv u read some where saying that GOD or ALLAH was also present some where near when sarshti kartaa ishwar cerated this srasti? or alah or god created the srastiGod and allah came in to existence when some illiterate people now called prophets cerated them for their own purpose.so god and allah are created imaginary items not the creators themselves or any thing real...so pl refrain from mixing yr own n macaulay's pond water into holy Vedic Amrit
From: Bhavesh Merja <bcmerja@gmail.com>
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Sent: Wed, November 24, 2010 5:30:50 PM
Subject: [aryasamajonline] VEDIC CONCEPTION OF GOD
वेदोक्त ईश्वर का स्वरूप
Vedic Conception of God
स पर्यगाच्छुक्रमकायमव्रणमस्नाविर शुद्धमपापविद्धम् |
कविर्मनीषि परिभूः स्वयम्भूर्याथातथ्यतोऽर्थान्व्यदधाच्छाश्वतीभ्यः समाभ्यः ||
यजुर्वेद – ४०.८
व्याख्यान
स = वह परमात्मा
पर्यगात् = सब में व्यापक है, आकाश के समान सब जगह में परिपूर्ण व्यापक है ।
शुक्रम् = शीघ्रकारी है, सब जगत् का निर्माता है ।
अकायम् = वह कभी शरीर (=अवतार) धारण नहीं करता, क्योंकि वह अखण्ड, अनन्त और निर्विकार है । इससे देह धारण कभी नहीं करता । उससे अधिक कोई पदार्थ नहीं है । इसी से ईश्वर का शरीर धारण करना कभी नहीं बन सकता ।
अव्रणम् = वह अखण्ड-एकरस, अच्छेद्य, अभेद्य, निष्कम्प और अचल है । इससे अंशांशिभाव भी उसमें नहीं है, क्योंकि उसमें छिद्र किसी प्रकार से नहीं हो सकता ।
अस्नाविरम् = नाड़ी आदि का प्रतिबन्ध या बन्धन भी उसका नहीं हो सकता । अति सूक्ष्म होने से ईश्वर को कोई आवरण नहीं हो सकता ।
शुद्धम् = वह परमात्मा सदैव निर्मल है । वह अविद्या, जन्म, मरण, हर्ष, शोक, क्षुधा तृषादि दोषोपाधियों से रहित है ।
अपापविद्वम् = वह कभी पापाचरण, अन्याय नहीं करता, क्योंकि वह सदैव न्यायकारी ही है ।
कविः = वह त्रैकालज्ञ (सर्वज्ञ - सर्ववित्) महा विद्वान् है, जिसकी विद्या का अन्त कभी कोई नहीं ले सकता ।
मनीषी = सब जीवों के मन (विज्ञान) का साक्षी, सर्वान्तर्यामी, सबके मन का दमन करने वाला है ।
परिभूः = वह सब दिशा और सब जगह में परिपूर्ण हो रहा है | सबके ऊपर, सर्वोपरि विराजमान है ।
स्वयम्भूः = वह स्वयं-सिद्ध है । जिसका आदि कारण माता, पिता, उत्पादक कोई नहीं, किन्तु वही सब का आदि कारण – निमित्त कारण है ।
याथातथ्यतः अर्थान् व्यदधात् शाश्वतीभ्यः समाभ्य: = वह ईश्वर अपनी सनातन (अनादि) जीव रूप प्रजा को अपनी सनातन विद्या से यथावत् अर्थों अर्थात् सत्य विद्या का उपदेश चार वेद द्वारा कराता है । उस हमारे दयामय पिता परमेश्वर ने बड़ी कृपा से अविद्यान्धकार का नाशक, वेद विद्यारूप सूर्य प्रकाशित किया है । और सबका आदि (=निमित्त) कारण परमात्मा है ऐसा अवश्य मानना चाहिए । ऐसे विद्यापुस्तक का भी आदि कारण ईश्वर ही को निश्चित मानना चाहिए । विद्या का उपदेश ईश्वर ने अपनी कृपा से किया है | क्योंकि हम लोगों के लिए उसने सब पदार्थों का दान दिया है, तो विद्यादान क्यों न करेगा । सर्वोत्कृष्ट विद्या पदार्थ का दान परमात्मा ने अवश्य किया है, तो वेद के बिना अन्य कोई पुस्तक संसार में ईश्वरोक्त नहीं है । जैसा पूर्ण विद्यावान् और न्यायकारी ईश्वर है वैसा ही वेद पुस्तक भी है । अन्य कोई पुस्तक ईश्वरकृत वेदतुल्य व अधिक नहीं है ।
Purport of the above Veda Mantra
Glorification (stuti) gives rise to love of the Supreme Being, reformation of one's nature, character and attributes in accordance with the nature, attributes, and character of God. Prayer (prarthanaa) creates humility, courage, and obtains divine help. Communion (upaasanaa) results in union with the Great Being and in direct cognition of Him.
Glorification is of two kinds: Positive (Saguna) and Negative (Nirguna).
Positive glorification consists in praising God as possessed of positive attributes in this manner: "That Supreme Being overspreads all. He is entirely spirit, All-energy, All-powerful, Pure, Perfect, Omniscient, Inward Controller of all, Ruler of All, Eternal and Self-existent. He has from all eternity been teaching uncreated immortal human souls, the true knowledge of things through the revelation of the Veda - His eternal knowledge."
Negative glorification consists in praising God as devoid of such ungodly qualities as passion and malice in this way: "He is never embodied, is never born, is never liable to division and is free from nervous or arterial systems, never commits a sin, is never subject to pain, grief and ignorance and the like."
The object of Glorification is reform one's nature, attributes and character after the nature, attributes and character of God, for instance let him be just as God is and so on. He who praises God like a flunkey, but does not reform his character does himself no good.
Ref: 'Aryaabhivinay" - a Prayer Book written by Maharshi Dayananda Saraswati (1824-1883)
= Bhavesh Merja
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