Thursday, October 29, 2009

Re: [Siraat-al-Mustaqeem] Heaven (Jannah) for All Good people

My take:
I am 76+ year old person. You can slay me. I hate your Allah for the reasons given below. Space constrains me to quote full Aayats, however they have been quoted below:-
Know Allah-

Secular Allah boasts for being a terrorist (Koran 8:12) and permits incest (Koran 33:37-38). Secular Allah claims that he deceives humanity, (Koran 9:3) assassinates humanity, (Koran 9:5) slays humanity, (Koran 8:17) dupes humanity, ambushes humanity, (Koran 9:3) robs humanity, (Koran 8:1) condones rape of women, (Koran 23:6) enslaves women, Children, and even his own worshippers, commits murder, (Koran 8:17) genocide, (Koran 8:39) sadistic tortures, terrorism, warmongering, (Koran 2:216; 8:65 and 67) etc. on the pretext that one does not worship Allah alone. Still Muslims claim that they are Seculars!

Allah's good Muslim becomes Jihadist i.e. crusader of Islam, a man who leaves his home, sacrificing his wealth and life, fighting in Allah's Cause. (Koran, 8:72). That cause is destroying all faiths save Islam. (Koran 8:39). Allah says they will be rewarded with stolen booty (Koran, 8:1, 69 and 41) and women to rape (Koran, 23:6) of the victim/s, if they survive or with a heavenly BROTHEL (Koran, 37:47-49 and 76:19-21) if they die. Bad Muslims, on the other hand, are peaceful. Allah calls them "hypocrites", because they are unwilling to fight. (Koran, 3:167). He even says that peaceful Muslims are "the vilest of creatures" and that hell's hottest fires await them. [Koran 16:70] If you are a peace-loving Muslim, may note, your Allah condemns you. You Muslims have no shame that you submit to dreaded incest monger, (Koran 33:37-38) assassin and robber Allah. (Koran, 8:1 and 17). Look! This is secularism. Democrats say, "This is peaceful coexistence and religious tolerance!"

Good Muslims are those, who relinquished liberty in lieu of booty and sex.

    Christianity and Islam are cults. It is time to wake up and realize that these cults are threat to humankind and there can be no co-existence with Muslims and Christians. As long as Muslims and Christians believe in Muhammad and Jesus, they are a threat to others and even to themselves. Muslims and Christians must leave their Christianity and Islam, discard their cultures of hate and join the rest of humankind as fellow humans, or non-Muslims and non-Christians must separate themselves from them, ban Christianity and Islam, end the immigration of Muslims and Christians and slay those, who plot against humanity and refuse to integrate. Christianity and Islam are incompatible with humanity and morality. These are warring creeds {(Koran 2:216 and 8:65) and (Bible, Matt 10:34 and Luke 12:49)} that use democracy to destroy humanity and to establish itself as a worldwide dictatorship. The only way to avert the clash between this barbarity and civilization and a world disaster, is to expose the fallacies of Christianity and Islam and demystify them. Muslims and Christians must be weaned from Christianity and Islam for humanity to live in peace. Aryavrt Government is here to do it. Support us.

Muslims and Jews must thank Vedic culture for their survival. They are alive, because Vedic culture could not be eradicated. No sooner, Vedic culture would be eradicated; Jews and Muslims would be eradicated within short time. This is because of the fact that with all his might the so-called supreme Allah could not supersede Muslims over Christians' population. Even in Science, technology, arms and deception, Muslims are far behind Christians. 27 Islamic countries could not defeat small Israel. How would they protect themselves from Christians? Now Muslims are scared for the US occupation upon Iraq and Afghanistan. How would they protect their Islamic countries on the face of the commands of Jesus to slay those, who do not accept Jesus their king? (Bible, Luke 19:27). Muslim historians proudly tell us as to how many women were sold in Baghdad market and how many women were raped by Muhammad, after robbing and killing their near and dear. However, no sooner Serbs raped Muslim women and returned pregnant Muslims' women to Muslims and when Israel killed civilians in Lebanon, Muslims cried for violation of human rights. Do non-Muslims have no human rights? The worst threat is to the women of Aryans and those dictator proletariats, who are neither Muslims nor Christians. It goes to reflect another important stupidity of Muslim (Koran 23:6) and Christian (Bible, Isaiah 13:16) women, who are breeding their own enemies as well as enemies of human race. 

We must learn the doctrine of Christianity and Islam to survive. The doctrine is very clear that all forms of force and persuasion may and must be used to conquer aliens. Christianity or Islam is self-proclaimed enemy of non Christian nations and unbelievers. {Azaan, (Koran, 2:191-194 and 8:39) and (Bible, Exodus/ Chapter 20 / The Ten Commandments/ Verses 3 and 5 and Luke 19:27)}. 

Government insists that you respect Christianity/ Islam, but Christianity/ Islam has to slay you. Tell me, where is your liberty promised in the Indian Constitution?

Non-violence is imposed upon Aryans alone through [Article 29(1) of the Indian Constitution] and Sections 196 and 197 of the Criminal Procedure Code. Like Nazis rolling into Poland following the "peace process" in 1930's Europe, the perpetrators of Islamic terror and Christianity's Mission are inflamed by violent and racist doctrines. The doctrines are ' Fight them until persecution is no more and the Religion of Allah reigns supreme.' (Koran 8:39) and "But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them bring them here and kill them in front of me." Bible, Luke, Chapter 19 Verse 27. Both have agenda, and you are ignorant of it. If we do not retaliate, humanity would finish. 

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On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Shoaib Khan <> wrote:

Dear Brother Iftekhar,

This is in response to your Email Regarding Subject "Heaven (Jannah) for All Good people"  in which you have concluded that anyone is considered to be practicing Islam who beleive in Allah and is doing good/noble deeds and can enter into Jannah without accepting and following our Beloved Prophet MUHAMMAD (SALLALLAH-0-ALYEH-E-WASSALM) & Quran , as I have consulted with the Academic Director of Quran Academy Karachi [] Mr Naveed Ahmed,
Following are the verses that proves your ideas/approach to be wrong and misguiding and for reference i am also attaching your email below.

Surah 2 - Al Baqarah
136 - 137

002.136 Say ye: "We believe in God, and the revelation given to us, and to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and that given to Moses and Jesus, and that given to (all) Prophets from their Lord: We make no difference between one and another of them: And we bow to God (in Islam)."

002.137 So if they believe as ye believe, they are indeed on the right path; but if they turn back, it is they who are in schism; but God will suffice thee as against them, and He is the All-Hearing, the All-Knowing.

Surah 4 - Al-Nisa 150-151

004.150 Those who deny God and His Messengers, and (those who) wish to separate God from His Messengers, saying: "We believe in some but reject others": And (those who) wish to take a course midway,-

004.151 They are in truth (equally) unbelievers; and we have prepared for unbelievers a humiliating punishment.

Surah 4 - Al-Nisa 170

004.170 O mankind! The Messenger hath come to you in truth from God: believe in him: It is best for you. But if ye reject Faith, to God belong all things in the heavens and on earth: And God is All-Knowing, All-wise.

Surah 5 - Al Ma'idah - 15

005.015 O people of the Book! There hath come to you our Apostle, revealing to you much that ye used to hide in the Book, and passing over much (that is now unnecessary): There hath come to you from God a (new) light and a perspicuous Book,-

Surah 5 - Al Ma'idah - 19

005.019 O People of the Book! Now hath come unto you, making (things) clear unto you, Our Apostle, after the break in (the series of) our apostles, lest ye should say: "There came unto us no bringer of glad tidings and no warner (from evil)": But now hath come unto you a bringer of glad tidings and a warner (from evil). And God hath power over all things.

Surah 5 - Al Ma'idah - 51 - 52 - 53

005.051 O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily God guideth not a people unjust.

005.052 Those in whose hearts is a disease - thou seest how eagerly they run about amongst them, saying: "We do fear lest a change of fortune bring us disaster." Ah! perhaps God will give (thee) victory, or a decision according to His will. Then will they repent of the thoughts which they secretly harboured in their hearts.

005.053 And those who believe will say: "Are these the men who swore their strongest oaths by God, that they were with you?" All that they do will be in vain, and they will fall into (nothing but) ruin.

Your Original Email

From: Iftekhar Hai <umah.hai@hotmail. com>
Subject: Reply to Mansoor Suleman: RE: [Siraat-al-Mustaqee m] Heaven (Jannah) for All Good people
To: siraat-al-mustaqeem -owner@yahoogrou
, finpros@yahoogroups .com, accountants_ forum@yahoogroup, acca_profs@yahoogro
Cc: salam-e-subha@ yahoogroups. com, pakistan-my- quest@yahoogroup
, islamic_circle@ yahoogroups. com, siraat-al-mustaqeem @yahoogroups. com, eagles-pk@googlegro, umah.hai@hotmail. com
Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009, 9:13 PM

Salam Aliakom!!!

By the way this email also goes all over USA and UK.  Audience other than Muslims also read it and they want to know where lies the truth.  So I am going to explain to the best of scholarly studies of ulemas and learned Islamic scholars from USA and UK.  I am originally from India-Pakistan but having been in USA from the last 42 years and I teach Quran to non-Muslims from the last 25 years.  Here is where I disagree with your way of thinking.


1) You said, "Only Islam is the religion acceptable to Allah"  I agree.  But what is the definition of the word "ISLAM" ?
Did Islam started from Prophet Mohammed or did it start from Adam, Eve, Noah, Abrahman, etc. etc.  See below the definition of the word Islam as described in the Quran:  Surah 42:13


The Quran is very clear in explaining the definition of the word Islam.  What does it mean and what does it stand for.  The uniqueness of this word is - that it is not named after any person (in this case our Prophet).  It means total surrender or submission to Allah (God).  Islam was the religion even before our Prophet Mohammed was born (pbuh) as is evidenced in The Quran in reference to 42:13,

 "The same religion (Islam or submission) has He established for you that which He enjoined on Noah.  That which We have sends as inspiration to you (Mohammed pbuh) and that which We enjoined on Abraham, Moses and Jesus: That you should stay steadfast in religion (submission to our Lord -Islam) and make no divisions therein. (this means work for the unity of humankind)  As for those who worship other than God they are on (hard) wrong way to call from.  God chooses and guides those whom He wills towards Him.


Commentary:  According to this if a Christian, a Jew or any believer in One Supreme Being says "we surrender or submit to God."  They are falling within the definition of the word Islam.  The art of surrender or submission is called Islam.  This art of submission/surrende r was shown to all the Prophets and their people as evidenced in The Quran 10:47, 14:4 & 16:36.  Islam is very inclusive and broad in its definition.  Muslims believe in Allah and take Mohammed (pbuh) as their messenger, just as Christians and Jews believe in the same God and take Jesus and Moses as their respective messengers. However Muslims believe in all the prophets from Jewish and Christian scriptures. One must refrain from judging other believers the depth of surrendering or submission of other believers. God is THE ONLY JUDGE. 

Surah 3:85, "If anyone desires a religion other than Islam, never will it be accepted of him."   Here the definition of Islam must be taken in its global context of surrendering and submission to One and Only One God.


2) YOU SAY IT IS COMPULSORY FOR JEWS AND CHRISTIANS TO FOLLOW  HAZRAT MOHAMMED - NO  - NO -NO......... .... The Quran says there is no compulsion in religion.  2:256.


The Quran came to the Arabs who were in the state of "jahaliya" or ignorant.  Prophet Mohammed came as a Prophet from the Arabs and a Quran in Arabic to reform those illiterate Arabs (read Surah 32:3, Surah 26 ayats 198 & 199, Surah 41:44 and 5:19).


All the above Surahs and ayats must be read in linkage or together to come understand the real meaning.


3)  The time has come to read the Quran in global context.  Humanity is one with great deal of diversity and pluralism - The Quran is full of messages of diversity and pluralism - read 5:48




To you we have given the scriptures, just as we have given the scriptures to people before you (Jews, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, etc).  We have protected your scriptures (Quran) in its entirety.  So judge among people from what knowledge has come to you (from Quran) and do not be carried over by your vain desires (that Muslims are the only righteous and chosen people to lead). To each among you (referring to diverse groups – not excluding anybody) We have prescribed the Law (teachings of the indigenous, native people and Buddhist scholars, Gitas, Vedas, Torah, Gospels and The Quran) and an Open Way (given a conscience with reference to the spiritualists people). If God had willed, all humanity would have been of one single community (this means diversity is part of God's creation).  God's plan is to test you in what each one has received (in form of Holy Scriptures or Conscience).  So strive, as in a race in all virtues.  The goal of all the people is to God.  God (alone) will tell you the truth in matters of which you dispute." 5:48  

 (This means do not fight over religious matters, establish peace and conduct dialogues with wisdom and beautiful conduct to understand each other so all can live in peace)

4)  Tafseer of Ibn Kathir.  Teachings of Ibn Taimiyyah or the teachings of lbn Jausi, or of ibn Al Arabee and many more were good and relevant in the olden days when we lived in the mind set of "Darul Islam and Darul Kufr."


5) Heaven (Jannah) for All Good people. 

Read the Quran in complete and ask Allah for guidance and Allah will guide you - not ibn kathir or ibn Taimiyyah and others - they were not prophets.

Iftekhar Hai
UMA Interfaith Alliance 
Tel: 650-872-2578

My Understanding

Dear Brother,
The Quranic Verses You have quoted should be understand in the context they are revealed, and truth is that these verses are letting us know about people who believes in ALLAH and Messenger of their time (Beloved ESA Alyeh Salaam, MOSA Alyeh Salaam, IBRAHIM Alyeh Salaam, ISHAQ Alyeh Salaam ..........etc, before the arrival of Beloved Holy Prophet Muhammad (Sallah-0-ALyeh Wa Alihi Wassallam) and there fore they are considered to be Muslims. But After The Arrival of Our Beloved Prophet Muhammad (Sallah-0-ALyeh Wa Alihi Wassallam) any one would be considered to be a Muslim /Momin only if He/She believes on (Tauheed of Allah Subhan-o-Ta'lah) and Risalat of Muhammad (Sallah-0-ALyeh Wa Alihi Wassallam).

شعیب احمد خان
اٹلس ہنڈا لمیٹڈ

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1 comment:

Al Sunna said...

Assalamu alaikum,

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