Monday, October 26, 2009

Re: Is Bhaarat Swadeen Desh?

My take:
Forget the past.

Jinnah or Jawahar are hardly to blame. The blame of partition goes to Jehovah and Allah and you are ignorant of the fact.

Non-violence is imposed upon Aryans alone through [Article 29(1) of the Indian Constitution] and Sections 196 and 197 of the Criminal Procedure Code. Like Nazis rolling into Poland following the "peace process" in 1930's Europe, the perpetrators of Islamic terror and Christianity's Mission are inflamed by violent and racist doctrines. The doctrines are ' Fight them until persecution is no more and the Religion of Allah reigns supreme.' (Koran 8:39) and "But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them bring them here and kill them in front of me." Bible, Luke, Chapter 19 Verse 27. Both have agenda, and we are ignorant of it. If we do not retaliate, humanity would finish. Do you not feel horrified that Sonia and Hamid Ansari have Constitutional as well as divine right to slay you, rape your women and eradicate your Vedic culture?

    Christianity and Islam are cults. It is time to wake up and realize that these cults are threat to humankind and there can be no co-existence with Muslims and Christians. As long as Muslims and Christians believe in Muhammad and Jesus, they are a threat to others and even to themselves. Muslims and Christians must leave their Christianity and Islam, discard their cultures of hate and join the rest of humankind as fellow humans, or non-Muslims and non-Christians must separate themselves from them, ban Christianity and Islam, end the immigration of Muslims and Christians and slay those, who plot against humanity and refuse to integrate. Christianity and Islam are incompatible with humanity and morality. These are warring creeds {(Koran 2:216 and 8:65) and (Bible, Matt 10:34 and Luke 12:49) that use democracy to destroy humanity and to establish itself as a worldwide dictatorship. The only way to avert the clash between this barbarity and civilization and a world disaster, is to expose the fallacies of Christianity and Islam and demystify them. Muslims and Christians must be weaned from Christianity and Islam for humanity to live in peace. Aryavrt Government is here to do it. Support us.

While Aryans' communal Vedic Culture provided shelter to every faith, secular Christianity and Islam have annihilated every culture it has invaded or immigrated to. The total time for annihilation might take centuries, but once Christianity and Islam are ascendant they never fail. The host culture disappears and becomes extinct. They are after the last partially survived Vedic culture. Generosity of Aryans has become their vice! Salvage Vedic culture. The Indian Constitution has been compiled by the Britons' Congress Party in retaliation and to settle vendetta for opposing British rule.

While humanity is fighting relentless war for liberty, public servants, Jews, Christians, Muslims, and most human races have voluntarily relinquished their liberty, wisdom and manhood in lieu of booty and sex. (Koran, 8:1, 69 and 41), (Bible, Isaiah 13:16) and (Bible, Genesis 2:17). They have no shame that they are fighting to retain their servilities of Jehovah, Jesus, Allah, rulers, clerics, dead Socialists, Communists and Democrats. Jehovah, Jesus, Allah, rulers, clerics, dead Socialists, Communists and Democrats have snatched the very instinct for liberty from their followers. Look! Still Jews, Christians and Muslims do not feel sorry that they are getting cheated, corrupted and humiliated by their so called merciful Allah, Jesus, Jehovah, clerics and rulers. They are happily defending their servilities in lieu of booty and sex. Both Muslims and Christians are being rewarded by clerics and rulers for relinquishing their liberty.

I feel pity for the Public servants. Public servants are hired criminals of Democracy. The Indian Constitution converts them into criminals. The rulers of the world need dominance and booty. For the very purpose, the so called prophets, who were otherwise scoundrels, fabricated criminal gods and established themselves intermediaries to their gods. The books named Bible and Koran of these gods, protected by the Indian Constitution and Indian Judiciary, have been compiled to justify the most ungodly behaviour the world has ever known. Qaba and Vetican are booty. Azaan is insult of the faiths and deities of non Muslims. Azaan incites communal hatred and strife on the basis of religion. Azaan is offence and attracts action under section 153/295 of the Indian Penal Code. While 'Justice' is first casualty in judiciary, 'Liberty' is the first casualty of faith. There is no such thing as 'freedom of faith'. However, while Azaan is enjoying full immunity under section 196 of the Indian Penal Code, read with [Article 29(1) of the Indian Constitution], telling these facts is blasphemy and attracts death penalty in Islamic countries. Financial racketeer and Lesbian President Pratibha and her Governors have been hired to protect Imaams, u/s 196 of the CrPC, who shout Azaan and grant sanction of prosecution against whistle blowers. Since 1860 A.D. till to date, no Imaam was ever arrested for violation of Sections 153 and 295 of the Indian Penal Code. Nay! Imaams are getting salaries on the writ of apex court (AIR 1993 SUPREME COURT 2086) for abusing Aryans through their Azaan. Take out booty and sex, Christianity and Islam would finish. Conversion is crime against humanity. Even Christianity and Islam command slaughter of  renegades. (Koran 4:89)  and (Bible, Deut. 13:6-11). Are Muslims going to relinquish their Koran and Christians their Bible?

Our Ishwar provides one and all, including Muslims and Christians, liberty of faith (Gita 7:21) and Right to Property (Manusmriti 8:308). In contrast World belongs to Allah (Koran 2:255). Muslims are Allah's hired killers of those, who worship any other god save Allah (Azaan and Koran 21:98) and usurp the victims lands, properties, children and women. (Koran, 8:1, 69 and 41). Qaba belongs to idol worshippers. Are Muslims going to return Qaba to idol worshippers? 


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On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 2:18 AM, Mohan Gupta <> wrote:
From:  Shriharsha Sharma <>
Is Bhaarat Swadeen Desh?
I call upon all the gurdians of Hindu culture,Hindu civilization, Hindu heritage, Hindutraditions, Hindudharma, Hindu yogis,Hindu Dharam gurus, Mathadhipatis, Mandaleshwrs, Mahamandaleshwars, Sadhus and patriots who love Hindusthan  to come togather and join hands to replace this CONGRESS, COMMUNIST, CTHOLIC AND ISLAMIC UNHOLY ALLIANCE which is now destroying the deep foundations of our existence for good.
This is getting too late .
India is not even independent what to talk of freedom because it is being ruled by foreign women  who is head of Congress party of India and the P.M.and cabinet is the face mask the real power is at 10 Janpath so let us talk straight, free and frank that unless we remove the foreign ruler nothing will change and India what we have will be Islamo-Christian state soon.

From: Prem Sabhlok

Freedom we are yet to attain. In 1947 we got Independence i.e. replacemnet of British rulers with Brown rulers and continuation of Colonial system of Governance which we did not know how to implement. Steel frame of 1947 Bureaucracy is now fragile rusted frame- insensitive, self serving, non accountable and least transparent.
Netaji had said "Give me blood, I shall get you Freedom", Mahatma Gandhi wanted Ram Rajya for India (i.e virtuous state) and other Leaders said Swaraj is our birth right.
We are yet to achieve Freedom as envisaged by Netaji S.C Bose, Ramrajya of Gandhi ji and Swaraj of Tilak and Gokhle. Pt Nehru did not understand the difference between Swaraj, Freedom, virtuous state and Independence and we continued with Colonial System of governance describing it Swaraj, Freedom etc.
The Characteristic of Independent states are; 
Corruption, non accountability, mafia politics/Miiltary Rule/Theocracy, over centralisation, fixed/purchased vote bank,manipulation of elections/voters lists, cities as urban nightmare, top down democracy etc. Citizens though sovereign do not know what soereignity means and allow the public servants to behave like Sovereigns.  
Independent States thus tend to split/break into smaller states like erstwhile USSR, Pakistan and some former Communist countries/always tend toward anarchy, social disorder, terrorism etc. 
Countries having Swaraj, Freedom/Ramrajya have politics as Noble Endeavour, better community life, effective Local  Governments, best liveable villages/cities, bottom up democracy, decentralisattion etc. The citizens know that they are the real Sovereign.  
India has some characteristics of countries with Freedom and most of the Characteristics of Independent countries/colonial countires without Freedom.
The above analysis "who brought Freedom- "Gandhi or Netaji" we should do after attaining Freedom and not now when we have only Independence without Freedom.
with Regards,
Prem Sabhlok 
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Jaswant Singh's book on Mohammed Ali Jinnah, which has become a talking point across India, has revived the old debate about Partition. Time for a reality check before we decide on heroes and villains

Jaswant Singh, former cabinet minister, has written a book on Mohammad Ali Jinnah which has become a talking point across India . I have not read the book. I have heard Jaswant Singh on TV expounding his views.

The main thrust of his work seems to be:

1) Jinnah has been unnecessarily demonised. He was a great man and not wholly responsible for the Partition of the Sub Continent.

2) Pandit Nehru was primarily responsible for the Partition because he believed in a centralized India which left no space for the Muslims to protect themselves against Hindu domination.

3) Mahatma Gandhi, and other Congress leaders were opposed to the Partition and would not have allowed it if it were not for Nehru.


The view about Nehru's role in the Partition is not new. This scribe wrote about it in a book of just 107 text pages, not over 600 pages, which were published 20 ago. Others, such as former ADC to Lord Mountbatten and later India ’s ambassador abroad, Narendra Singh Sarila, wrote on the subject of the Partition at greater length. 

Let us consider the three main postulates of Jaswant Singh’s views outlined above.

1) Jinnah was not a "great" man. He was articulate, highly intelligent and focused. He missed greatness by a wide margin because he willingly colluded with the British to create a Pakistan about which he had not even determined boundaries or shape. He mainly fulfilled British goals while satisfying his own vanity.

Independence came first; the boundaries of the divided nations came later. The British had decided on Partition to serve their own strategic ends. On 29 March 1945 , after Viceroy Lord Wavell met Prime Minister Churchill in London he recorded: "He (Churchill) seems to favour partition of India into Pakistan , Hindustan and Princestan." 

Sir Martin Gilbert, the British biographer of Winston Churchill revealed that Churchill had asked Jinnah to dispatch secret letters to him by addressing them to a lady, Elizabeth Giliat, who had been Churchill's secretary. This secret interaction continued for years. Jinnah's key decisions between 1940 and 1946, including the demand for Pakistan in 1940, were taken after getting the nod from Churchill or Lord Linlithgow and Wavell, both Churchill's admirers. 

Jinnah admitted during the Simla Conference in 1945 that he was receiving advice from London .

In other words, Jinnah was as much a British puppet on a string as were the top Indian leaders.

2) Yes, Pandit Nehru was primarily responsible for the Partition.

This was not because he was emotionally committed to a centralised India but because he too was thoroughly programmed by the British since his school days. His proximity to Lord Mountbatten has been recorded by Maulana Abul Kalam Azad and historian Shashi Joshi among others. Even before Mountbatten's arrival in India Lord Wavell had complained that Nehru was often informed by Whitehall before he was!

3) Mahatma Gandhi and other Congress leaders may have been unhappy about the Partition. They did not oppose it. When the resolution to accept Partition was taken by the Congress on 
June 3, 1947 Gandhi observed his day of silence. He assured Mountbatten on June 2 that he would not oppose Partition. 

It can be nobody's case that Nehru was so powerful that he could override Gandhi and the rest.

The truth was that Gandhi lacked the gumption to oppose Partition when it came to the crunch because he knew that his adversary was not Nehru but Britain . At Mountbatten’s bidding he could undertake a fast unto death to compel the Indian government to pay adequate compensation to Pakistan . He made no such protest when his life’s work of creating a united independent India was being destroyed. 

Gandhi's belated attempt to undo his mistake by wanting to settle in Pakistan and by demanding the dissolution of the Congress in his last will and testament was aborted by his assassination.


These judgments may appear cruel. Truth is seldom kind.

Any assessment about the causes that led to the Partition of India would be flawed unless the central role of the British in creating it, and the compliant role of the Indian and Pakistani leaders in accepting it, are recognized. 

The most clinching evidence of this is provided by the recorded views of Christopher Beaumont who was private secretary to Sir Cyril Radclif, Chairman of the Indo-Pakistan Boundary Commission. His private papers were recently released by his son, Robert Beaumont.

The elder Beaumont wrote in 1947: 

"The viceroy, Mountbatten, must take the blame - though not the sole blame - for the massacres in the Punjab in which between 500,000 to a million men, women and children perished…The handover of power was done too quickly."

Christopher Beaumont was most scathing about how partition affected thePunjab . He wrote: 

"The Punjab partition was a disaster.. Geography, canals, railways and roads all argued against dismemberment.. The trouble was that Muslims, Hindus and Sikhs were an integrated population so that it was impossible to make a frontier without widespread dislocation.. Thousands of people died or were uprooted from their homes in what was in effect a civil war.. By the end of 1947 there were virtually no Hindus or Sikhs living in west Punjab - now part of Pakistan - and no Muslims in the Indian east.. The British government and Mountbatten must bear a large part of the blame for this tragedy."

A few Britons are beginning to confront the truth.

Will Indians ever start doing the same?
From: vilasni narayanan 
Karnataka promotes Dasara as secular festival
  Hindus should look for an alternative to BJP, they seem to be more sickluar than the real sickularists, so how will they take care of Hindu interests and protect Hindus from the onslaught of christians and muslims, if anything they seem to be even more pandering of these communities just to stay in power.

Subject:  Karnataka promotes Dasara as secular festival

By the same token the Muslim and Christian gods festivals and celebrations should be secularized.  And the person who is suggesting it in the article should take the lead.
Karnataka promotes Dasara as secular festival
http://www.indian details.php/13196-1-1-Karnataka-promotes-Dasara-as-secular-festival
Published : September 03 2009
Karnataka government promotes the state's Dasara festival as a secular celebration by including Christian and Muslim places of worship in the festival illumination this year.
The move comes after the government last year designated the festival as "Naada Habba" or festival of the land, in the communally sensitive state.
The 10-day festival is linked with its Hindu kings, and celebrated with pomp in Mysore, the ancient capital of the region.
The festival falls during September-October and denotes the victory of truth over evil. It was the day when the Hindu Goddess Chamundeshwari killed the demon Mahishasura.
But the state minister for Waqfs and minority welfare Mumtaz Ali Khan wants to promote Dasara as a secular festival as it now attracts large crowds, including foreign tourists, to Mysore.
The festival is celebrated with colorful marches, cultural programs and illumination of ancient royal palaces and temples, particularly in Mysore.
"Dasara is not the festival of Hindus alone, but of all. The religious minorities should take part in it," the minister said on Aug. 30.
Reports say officials responsible for organizing the festival are planning to include Christian and Muslim places of worship for illumination this year.
The cultural panel is hosting events by students from Urdu schools. The minister welcomed the initiative saying Dasara should be celebrated by all. "It is our festival."
"Muslims should be part of Hindu festivals like Ganesha Chaurthi. It is not un-Islamic. Hindu leaders should reciprocate by being part of Muslim festivals," the minister added.
The state ruled by pro-Hindu Bharatiya Janata Party, has witnessed sectarian violence between Hindus and Muslims in the past month.
Christian leaders also say anti-Christian attacks by Hindu radicals have increased since BJP came to power in the state in May 2008.
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