Friday, October 24, 2008

Re: Chat

With great respect to Mr. Attri Ji,

Victims of faiths

The notorious frauds, named prophets, have invented a new way of making the whole humanity their slaves irrespective of faith. These prophets have converted even their own followers, into their slaves for they have made their fabricated gods unapproachable. Those, who accept the faith of prophets, become the slaves of prophets as the prophets have become brokers of Jehovah and Allah! Prophets alone can meet their gods. Thus the followers of the prophets are slaves of their prophets. By providing incentives of booty and sex, the prophets got killed those who did not accept their faiths. Thus the whole world came  under the control of the prophets. The prophets died and left behind their legacies to clerics and rulers. Why should one believe? Why not one search Ishwar either by Yog or Kundalini Jagran? However, these monopolies of prophets have put the human race at the brink of annihilation like dinosaurs.

This is because if raping women of alien faith is free from blame (Koran 23:6) for Muslims, then how can Muslims refute Christians, who have been commanded to ravish the women of non-Christians before the eyes of the men of the victim women (Bible, Isaiah 13:16)? If those worshipping other Gods save Allah be killed is justified, (Koran 2:191) how can Muslims refute Christians, who have been commanded by Jesus to slay those who do not accept Jesus their king? (Bible, Luke 19:27) If snatching the belongings of other person is offence, why the democrats and P.O.s of judiciary, who snatched citizens' fundamental right to property, (Article 31 - now stands omitted since 20-06-1979) are not dacoits? If property belongs to society, why such society is not usurper? Where is the moral in that society that is owner of the belongings of the haves? Why should we tolerate that Indian Constitution that grants unfettered fundamental right to minorities to slay and rob the people of alien faiths and rape their women? [Article 29(1)]. Governments are duty bound to protect the properties of their citizens. Where is the moral in Article 39(c) of the Indian Constitution that snatches properties of the citizens?

Humanity invented governments to protect the lands, ladies, lives, liberties and labours of the subjects? For the very purposes, every government of the day has deputed judiciary and police. Every government punishes the guilty. Notorious criminal prophets invented religions and dogmas which allow them to subjugate even their own followers. This is because Allah alone can be worshipped, Muhammad is broker of Allah (Namaaz and Koran 2:191 and 21:98) or Jealous Jehovah alone can be worshipped or religion is opium. Thus, these dogmas subjugate one and usurp the belongings of the haves ('KORAN', Chapter 8 (The Spoils of War) Verse 1 and 41) and rape alien women of their choice (Bible, Isaiah 13:15and16) (See Koran, 4:24; 23:6 and; 33:50 and 70:30) and remain scot-free.

No sooner, one accepts Islam, Judaism, Christianity, and Socialism, the criminal activities of murder, plunder, incest and rape of women ceased to be considered crimes instead these crimes turn into the source of sustenance and heaven after death for these criminal democrats, Communists, Muslims, and Christians.

However, in contrast, there is Vedic Sanskriti. It grants liberty of worship of god of one's choice. (Gita 7:21). Supports one's right to property. (Manusmriti 8:308). If one wishes to survive, one has no choice than relinquishing their gods Jehovah and Allah.

Thus the basic cause, i.e. protection of lands, lives, ladies, liberties, and labours of the subjects, for whom the governments were invented and implemented, gets defeated. The snatching of one's belongings, which is a crime, turns into the religious duty of every follower of these criminal religions and first part of the duties of democratic and socialist governments. The followers of these religions, socialists, and democrats find no immorality in snatching one's property, one's women, and killing an innocent.

Qaba and Vetican are booty. Indian Constitution, Koran and Bible have been compiled to justify the most ungodly and immoral behaviour the world has ever known. Conversion is crime against humanity. 'Liberty' is the first casualty of faith.

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One has right of private defence under section 102 and 105 of the Indian Penal Code which is still today in full force. Christians and Muslims are here to slay and rob humanity on the pretext of freedom of faith. One has legal right to slay these Christians and Muslims. However, no individual can exercise the rights. Aryavrt Government is here to protect you.

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On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 12:08 PM, surinder attri <> wrote:

1. swamijyoti to me

Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "The Danger of Hindu Christian Riots in Andhra Prad...":

Hi All,

Yeah, let's wake up, whine and then go to sleep. Let's pick up swords against the Christians missionaries who atleast are doing something which we Indians never do. Do something good for the poor, build hospitals, build schools, provide free education, cleanup the caste system stench, provide something to feel proud about instead of feeling ugly with low self esteem, looked down by the upper castes, no jobs, not future, dont have anything to eat, etc, etc, etc,..the list goes on.

If Christians are harvesting souls, so be it. A lost Indian soul is better than a empty stomach and a step towards suicide or possible crime.

Common guys!!! Stop whining!!! If you got the big balls, Donate time, energy, effort and money to do something what the christians are doing. Mimic them. Do something good for a change. Then watch your fellow disgruntled Indians retain their souls.

Frankly speaking, you really do not need a foreign power to provide you with the financial resources. You got ample lagpatis/millionaires/billionaries at every corner of India. Wake them up to do something good.

I bet, every person who is reading this comment is atleast a lagpati who never donated a rupee or an hour for social work.

No. That, you dont want to do. Like Saaju Bhaskar says in the above 'we never donate a rupee at charity'. But we bitch and bitch about someone else doing something good for a change. We Indians just cannot digest when someone else is doing good.

All I hear is - typical Indians complaining and complaining but doing nothing like what the christians are doing.

I dont know if I should laugh or cry at the pathetic stand we educated and or so-called cultured Indians take when some poor/uneducated/lowCaste/etc Indians are getting benefited. If their souls are going to someother religion, so be it. Put yourself in their shoes, go on empty stomach for few days and then see who will come do something for you, especially when you are in some rural area. Nobody, my brother. Chances are high that some Christian will feed you something.

When Mohd Gazhni slaughtered us, we complained. When BritishRaj robbed up, we royally licked their bottoms for 200+ years and complained. Now, when missionaries are doing something good, BINGO!!, we complain. Looks like complaining is in our genes.

Give me a break and decide what in the above three scenarios is benefiting Indians.

One thing seems to be clear, the missionaries want your soul. Not your blood, sweat, money, or your women or your lands or cattle. They are willing to sacrifice all their personal monies, blood, sweat and efforts to do some good. The net effect is simple - some pathetic/poor Indian getting a free benefit!!!












Oooops!! We Can't do it. Me donate? Just cannot do it. She did, because she was a crazy missionary. Me? No Way!! I'm a proud Indian!!! Just cannot do something for free. The word DONATE is not in Indian dictionary.

What's left?? Let's pick up the sword!!

2. My Take:

Signor Anonymous has written a sarcastic message. I do not want to imitate his style with sarcasm of my own, I want to tell it like it is.

Correspondently, I do not want to criticize only Non-Hindu religions, and give the benefit of doubt to Hinduism. If I did that, I will be replicating what others are doing, particularly the Moslems & Christians.

3. We Hindus are Not perfect, nor have ever claimed that we are. We are selfish, and welfare of ourselves & our family, carries the highest priority in our reasoning. Every body else, our neighbors, our community, state, or nation, take much lower rank. With the coat of arms of this blind-individualism, we Hindus cannot advance into being public or community-minded. We also blaze with troublesome Lakeer-Ke-Fakir ( we prefer to follow the beaten path ) syndrome. Even though our caste system has existed for thousands of years, and is inordinately hier-archical ( a system of in-equality ), our heedless-individualism has not permitted us a sense of urgency, to enable us to reform our social system, for the uplift of the socially-disadvantaged sections of our Hindu society. Even the enormous challenge both from Islam & Christianity, has not persuaded or provoked us Hindus, to set our social house in order.

4. The unperceptive-individualism of the Hindu & defects in his social system, have enabled Hindu's adversaries ( Islam & Christianity ) to exaggerate, fabricate, and wholesale-distort the characteristics of Hinduism, even though the picture of Islam & Christianity is hardly flushed with re-assuring beauty. Both Moslems & Christians have gotten away with their deceptive broadcasts regarding the greatness & perfection of their own religions, in spite of the degraded & degenerate characteristics of Islam & Christianity. Actions always speak louder than words & the slaughter of hundreds of millions of Non-Moslems & Non-Christians ( because of their refusal to subscribe to their barbaric religions ), by the soldiers of Hazrat Mohammad & Jesus Christ, and engraved on the pages of history, strip naked the barbaric nature of both Islam & Christianity, and totally nullify Islam & Christianity's claims of being religions of peace, love, and brotherhood.

5. Both Islam & Christianity are proselytism-religions, they want to swell their numbers ( by all means possible, fair as well as fraudulent ), to acquire power to control things in the world. Christian-Missionaries do establish schools, hospitals, and other service institutions, but these are incidental to their real aim ( you will never get them to admit it ) of harvesting souls for Christianity. To harvest souls, both Islam & Christianity, have engaged in slaughter, terror, torture, trickery, temptation & taxation, with the greatest glee, gusto, & pride. It is a pity that majority of Moslems & Christians have not renounced nor denounced Islam or Christianity, for their sickening record of un-mitigated barbarism.

6. Mrs. Radha Rajan says that Islam is sword but Christianity is cancer. Mrs, Rajan is not exaggerating, her description is flawlessly accurate. Christians in US,UK, and other Western countries, raise money for financing Christian Missions in India, with miserably-contemptible slogans, such as:

" Hindus are living in Hell, they are headed for Hell, there is an urgent need to save their souls, by converting them to Christianity. "

And so on….

The diligence with which they condemn Hinduism & praise Christianity, makes the Christian congregations in the West, donate money for Christian Missionaries in India. Missionaries target the weakest, the most disadvantaged segments of the Hindu society for conversion.

7. It is easily apparent that:

Christianity is not a religion of care or compassion, but is a Gospel Of Hate. Christianity's hatred of Non-Christian religions is not accidental, it is the keystone of Christianity. With an incredibly vast organization & huge financial resources, Christians go to town to harvest Non-Christian souls.

The Christian church employs 4 million full-time workers to harvest Non-Christian souls, it runs 13000 major libraries, publishes 22000 periodicals, operates 1800 Christian radio & TV stations, all for harvesting new souls. It is a Numbers-Game. Indian Missionaries had a goal of 2000 new churches in India, by the year 2000.

8. One Catholic publication describes " The spiritual advantages of Famine & Cholera. " Famine brings in miracles. Baptismal water flows in streams, & starving little tots fly in masses to heaven. A hospital is a ready-made congregation, there is no need to go into the highways & hedges, and compel them to come in. They send each other.

Yes, to the Missionaries it is a Numbers-Game & the means take over.

9. Hindus do not have one prophet, one Text, & one church, which the Christians have. Their Prophet's word ( true or false ) is the Last Word for them, it has been spread over 2000 years. Sedulous practice of 2000 years, has made Christians experts, in capturing converts for pure material gain, grabbing lots of converts during famine & cholera, converts are assured of food, cloth, & medicine supplies. Christians consider these conversion methods fair & square, not dishonest nor dishonorable.

But are these methods fair & square, or cunning & crooked ?

10. Missionaries are:

" performing religious & cultural imperialism of India."

Christian church has a strong sense of community, with a well-organized social, financial, and political network among its membership. Using wealth to purchase other peoples loyalty is a game as old as humanity itself. Rich men use wealth to attract women, un-scrupulous employers use material incentives and disincentives to manipulate their workers. But historical longevity of this practice, neither makes the manipulation nor the exploitation morally or ethically right.

11. Organized religions, such as Islam & Christianity, are inherently POLITICAL organizations. Their financial and political machination, differ mightily from Un-Organized religions, who have a mass of independent, unaffiliated believers, philosophers, and mystics. Christianity and Islam make an organized effort to gain converts. Un-Organized religions do no such thing. Judaism, Hinduism, and Buddhism show no zeal for gaining converts, that is why you never hear about Jewish, Hindu, or Buddhist missionaries.

12. Modern medical and nursing schools teach their students, that the provision of medical services should never be used, as a means to proselytize or promote a religion, but that does not deter many Christian health care providers from doing exactly that. The USA's Faith Based Initiative law provides Christian missionary organizations with taxpayer funds, that are used to proselytize indigenous populations throughout the world. When missionaries bring outside wealth to an impoverished Third World country and use that wealth to provide services to attract converts, they interfere with local social and economic structure, & destroy local cultures.


Many Islamic countries strive to protect the cultural identity of their citizens, by enforcing a ban on preaching any religion but Islam. The aggressive, insidious, and highly political Christian missionaries have no chance in a Moslem country, but they have a field day in the country of India. Perhaps India should become a Hindu State, in order to protect its indigenous religion and culture from the predatory missionaries, and State-sponsored cultural Imperialism, that are coming from both Christian and Moslem countries. If the Jews have the right to establish and maintain Israel as a Jewish State, then the Hindus certainly have a right to establish and maintain India as a Hindu State. When Western leaders talk about a Clash of Civilizations, what they really mean is Judeo-Christianity and its corporate Capitalism, versus all non-Christians and non-Capitalists. Christian missionaries are essentially colonialists working for Christian cultural Imperialism.

14. Hindus are slow to anger, but occasionally Hindus, do

rise up to drive out the Christian missionaries. They do this to protect themselves and their indigenous culture, from wealthy and unscrupulous invaders, who have no respect for them or for their culture, whose goal is to replace indigenous Hindu culture, with Christianity.

15. Honesty of expression requires, a level playing field.

If Christian missionaries want to come to India, to make converts to Christianity, then they can come with empty pockets, and compete on a level playing field. Otherwise they are only interfering with the indigenous culture & way of life, and the indigenous people have a right to demand that they depart.

Surinder Paul Attri



On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 3:27 PM, surinder attri <> wrote:
Date: 19 Aug 2008 ( USA time )
Shri Tripathi Jee:
1. How are you now ? Have you recovered from your sickness ?
2. I chatted with you on the 16th of Aug 2008. Have you had a chance to talk with Dr. Poojari Jee, particularly with respect to the meeting date of 28 Sep 2008 ( Sunday ) or 29 Sep 2008 ( Monday ), in the city of Delhi ?
3. Also, does Dr. Poojari Jee have any preference or suggestion, regarding the meeting place ?
4. Please advise me. Thanks.
5. Perhaps, we three ( You, Dr. Poojari, and Myself ) can get together on a chat.
Surinder Paul Attri

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