Tuesday, June 29, 2010

Re: [notun_bangladesh] WHY DID GEERT WILDERS LEAVE OUT INDIA?/Mr Singh time to recognise who Mohammed is

My take:
Gurukuls, destroyed by Macaulay are the ultimate source of liberty. I respect Mr. Geert. However, he has wrong impression that he is free and a man. He is simply sheep of Jesus. He has been hounded out of heaven for Adam ate fruit from the tree of wisdom. (Bible, Genesis 2:17).

'Liberty'

I have every right to speak against Jesus, Church, Allah, Islam, Mosque and Azaan and not censored. And I have right to be angry that our lives, women, Vedic Dharm are continually being put under jeopardy because of the UOI policy of aiding, abetting, harbouring and defending Islam.

If anyone has a real desire to be a Muslim and has full conviction and strong belief that Islam is the true religion of God, then, all one needs to do is pronounce the "Shahada", the testimony of faith, without further delay. The "Shahada" is the first and most important of the five pillars of Islam. Following are the foundation of "Shahada".

"...The only religion in the sight of God is Islam..." (Koran 3:19)

"If anyone desires a religion other than Islam, never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter, he will be in the ranks of those who have lost (their selves in the Hellfire)." (Koran 3:85)

Government insists that you respect Christianity/ Islam, but Christianity/ Islam has no respect for you. Tell me, where is your liberty promised in the Indian Constitution?

Belief

I quote Lord Buddha.

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it or who has said it, not even if I have said it, unless it agrees with your reason and your own common sense."

In contrast,

The radical weakness of Judaism, Christianity & Islam as moral philosophies lie in their eradication of the individual conscience of humanity in favor of unthinking submission to the mere letter of revealed law. The long cherished moral, liberty of faith, right to property, chastity and dignity of women are snatched in lieu of booty and sex. The Bible, Koran and Sunnah (example of Mohammed) stand above reason, conscience, or nature. A thing is right - including acts and laws abhorrent to "superseded" or "irrelevant" natural morality - simply because Jehovah, Jesus and Allah say so, or because the prophets have thus said or done. The lack of any pretense to a moral basis for Bible or Sharia (Islamic law) is open and explicit: there is no "spirit of the law" in Christianity and Islam, no rationality behind it for human reason to discover by exercising man's God- given intellect. There is no discernment of the consequences of deeds, and revelation and traditions must not be questioned. Nor may any other standard of good and evil - least of all any notion of "natural" justice such as that assumed by the founding documents of our Veds or Manusmriti - be invoked.

Torah, Bible and Sharia cannot be penetrated by reason (its apparent inconsistencies notwithstanding) and the very attempt is forbidden heresy. It's blasphemy and attracts death penalty in Islamic and Christian countries and punishment u/s 153 and 295 of the Indian Penal Code. Every Jew, Christian or Moslem, who is qualified to give a sound opinion on matters of Torah, Bible or Sharia, is entitled to interpret the application of Torah, Sharia or Bible when such interpretation becomes necessary, but where an explicit command of Jehovah, Jesus and Allah or Prophets already exists, no rabbi, Pope, Father, Gideon, Cleric or Mufti, Aalim, Moslem leader or legislature can form an independent judgment. Since Muhammad is the final prophet, there can be no further development in any judicial matters where the Bible, Koran and Sunnah provide guidance. This deeply undermines the possibility of rational civic debate in Moslem Christian nations and accounts for the distinctly inhuman flavor of their legal systems.

The notorious frauds, named prophets, have invented a new way of making the whole humanity their slaves irrespective of faith. These prophets have converted even their own followers, into their slaves for they have made their fabricated gods unapproachable. Those who accept the faith of prophets, become the slaves of prophets as the prophets have become brokers of Jehovah and Allah! Prophets alone can meet their gods. Thus the followers of the prophets are slaves of their prophets. In lieu of providing incentives of booty and sex, the prophets get killed those who do not accept their faiths. Thus the whole world comes under the control of the prophets. However these monopolies of prophets have put the human race at the brink of annihilation like dinosaurs.

Do Christians not feel ashamed that they worship a criminal god, who has snatched their liberty, wisdom and manhood (Christians believe that they are sheep)?

Our children will ask 'what did our forefathers do', and their answer will be-they did nothing."

No sooner, one accepts Islam, Judaism, Christianity, and Socialism, the criminal activities of murder, plunder, incest and rape of women ceased to be considered crimes instead these crimes turn into the source of sustenance and heaven after death for these criminal democrats, Communists, Muslims, and Christians.

However, in contrast, there is Vedic Sanskriti. It grants liberty of worship of god of one's choice. (Gita 7:21). Supports one's right to property. (Manusmriti 8:308).

Islam means submission, while humanity is fighting for liberty, Muslims are becoming human bombs for servility of Allah.

The vast preponderance of ignorant Jews, Christians and Muslims do not know their prophet or their religion. They lead a life of ignorance, despair, tyranny, and mind-numbing rituals. They are kept in the dark, purposely deceived, for the benefit of clerics and kings. There is no incentive for Muslims and Christians to learn. Even if exposed to the truth, they would not reject Islam (Koran 4:89) or Jesus (Bible, Deut. 13:6-11) for fear of their lives. The Koran of Muslims and the Bible of Christians themselves confirm these startling realities. Allah commanded Muslims "not to question the Koran," for those who did, he said, "discarded their religion." (Koran 5:101 and 102). They may test this fact by asking for their civil rights. They would realize that doors of heaven have been closed for them.

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On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 7:20 AM, Kamal Mustafa <kamal4000@yahoo.com> wrote:


K

Date: Sunday, June 27, 2010, 9:35 PM

Mr Rameshwar Singh its about time you recognize who Mohammed is
Our 33 crore Gods could not help us..
Where was SRI RAM during the time of BABAR.  Sri Ram could not cross the Ocean from India to Sri Lanka for 12 years.
Today I know I am the GREAT GREAT....grandson of Goddess Sita Devi  but according to SRI RAM he never fathered My GREAT GREAT.... Grandpa.
Yours and MINE Great GRANDPA may be RAVAN.
MR Singh our Gods are and were less than us. That is why these foreigners ruled on us.
We all may be HARAMIS(bastards).
no one knows.
SITA DEVI my Goddess knows for sure
On my mother side my mom comes from
Hangman Breed of monkeys.
You know there never use to be any marriages between animals. So I could be double Harami(bastard) being a SOUTH INDIAN.
That's what you NORTH INDIAN call us behind our back.
They found the bones of Dinosaurs living millions of years ago.
They could not find BONES OF MY
ancestors FLYING BREED OF Monkeys.

The Bible says a BASTARD must not be allowed into the church for 10 generation.
The word Bastard does not occur in Quran.



Kamal Mustafa


--- On Sun, 6/27/10, Rameshwar Singh <rsingh631@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Rameshwar Singh <rsingh631@yahoo.com>
Subject: [Hinduism] Fw: [proudHindu] WHY DID GEERT WILDERS LEAVE OUT INDIA?
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Date: Sunday, June 27, 2010, 7:09 PM

Please realize the possibility of Islam's spread and danger of losing Europe and India. Please remember that there is a birth control slogan in India, "we two and our two." However, Muslims' slogan is "we two and our five." The bloody Muhammad prescribes to Muslims to breed like cats and overtake the population. This is happening in America, Europe, India, and all over. Please read the following speech by Geert Wilders, a Dutch parliamentarian.
 
R. Singh 


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Sent: Sun, June 27, 2010 3:31:11 PM
Subject: [proudHindu] WHY DID GEERT WILDERS LEAVE OUT INDIA?

The wise warn the others before calamity strikes. The fools wait till the country is PARTITIONED and they get slaughtered or flee their land of birth.

We HINDUS should CONGRATULATE Geert Wilders, the Dutch MP, and commend his courage and PATRIOTISM to every Hindu. Now let us locate his counterpart in our PARTITIONED India.

Kuru

27 June 10

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Geert Wilders is a Dutch Member of Parliament who can INSPIRE our own self-negating timid lot at Lok Sabha in New Delhi to whom "secularism" means "nishkam sewa" of all mankind and putting the foreigners & aliens above ourselves.

Please do read his speech with utmost interest:

 



In a generation or two, the US will ask itself:

Who lost Europe?'
Here is the speech of Geert Wilders, Chairman, Party for Freedom, the Netherlands , at the Four Seasons, New York, introducing an Alliance of Patriots and announcing the Facing Jihad Conference in Jerusalem .

Dear friends, 



Thank you very much for inviting me.

I come to
America with a mission.  All is not well in the old world. There is a tremendous danger looming, and it is very difficult to be optimistic.  We might be in the final stages of the Islamization of Europe.  This not only is a clear and present danger to the future of Europe itself, it is a threat to America and the sheer survival of the West.  The United States as the last bastion of Western civilization, facing an Islamic Europe.

First I will describe the situation on the ground in
Europe.  Then, I will say a few things about Islam.  To close I will tell you about a meeting in Jerusalem .

The
Europe you know is changing.

You have probably seen the landmarks.  But in all of these cities, sometimes a few blocks away from your tourist destination, there is another world.  It is the world of the parallel society created by Muslim mass-migration.

All throughout
Europe a new reality is rising: entire Muslim neighborhoods where very few indigenous people reside or are even seen.  And if they are, they might regret it.  This goes for the police as well.  It's the world of head scarves, where women walk around in figureless tents, with baby strollers and a group of children.  Their husbands, or slaveholders if you prefer, walk three steps ahead.  With mosques on many street corners.  The shops have signs you and I cannot read.  You will be hard-pressed to find any economic activity.  These are Muslim ghettos controlled by religious fanatics.  These are Muslim neighborhoods, and they are mushrooming in every city across Europe.  These are the building-blocks for territorial control of increasingly larger portions of Europe , street by street, neighborhood by neighborhood, city by city.

There are now thousands of mosques throughout
Europe.  With larger congregations than there are in churches.  And in every European city there are plans to build super-mosques that will dwarf every church in the region.  Clearly, the signal is: "we rule!"

Many European cities are already one-quarter Muslim: just take
Amsterdam , Marseille and Malmo in Sweden.  In many cities the majority of the under-18 population is Muslim.   Paris is now surrounded by a ring of Muslim neighborhoods.  Mohammed is the most popular name among boys in many cities.

In some elementary schools in
Amsterdam the farm can no longer be mentioned, because that would also mean mentioning the pig, and that would be an insult to Muslims.

Many state schools in
Belgium and Denmark only serve halal food to all pupils.  In once-tolerant Amsterdam gays are beaten up almost exclusively by Muslims.  Non-Muslim women routinely hear 'whore, whore'.  Satellite dishes are not pointed to local TV stations, but to stations in the country of origin.

In
France school teachers are advised to avoid authors deemed offensive to Muslims, including Voltaire and Diderot; the same is increasingly true of Darwin.  The history of the Holocaust can no longer be taught because of Muslim sensitivity.

In
England sharia courts are now officially part of the British legal system. Many neighborhoods in France are no-go areas for women without head scarves.  Last week a man almost died after being beaten up by Muslims in Brussels, because he was drinking during the Ramadan.

Jews are fleeing
France in record numbers, on the run for the worst wave of anti-Semitism since World War II.  French is now commonly spoken on the streets of Tel Aviv and Netanya, Israel.  I could go on forever with stories like this.  Stories about Islamization.

A total of fifty-four million Muslims now live in
Europe.   San Diego University recently calculated that a staggering 25 percent of the population in Europe will be Muslim just 12 years from now.  Bernhard Lewis has predicted a Muslim majority by the end of this century.

Now these are just numbers.  And the numbers would not be threatening if the Muslim-immigrants had a strong desire to assimilate.  But there are few signs of that.  The
Pew Research Center reported that half of French Muslims see their loyalty to Islam as greater than their loyalty to France.  One-third of French Muslims do not object to suicide attacks.  The British Centre for Social Cohesion reported that one-third of British Muslim students are in favor of a worldwide caliphate.  Muslims demand what they call 'respect'.  And this is how we give them respect.  We have Muslim official state holidays.

The Christian-Democratic attorney general is willing to accept sharia in the
Netherlands if there is a Muslim majority.  We have cabinet members with passports from Morocco and Turkey.

Muslim demands are supported by unlawful behavior, ranging from petty crimes and random violence, for example against ambulance workers and bus drivers, to small-scale riots.  
Paris has seen its uprising in the low-income suburbs, the banlieus.  I call the perpetrators 'settlers'.  Because that is what they are.  They do not come to integrate into our societies; they come to integrate our society into their Dar-al-Islam.  Therefore, they are settlers.

Much of this street violence I mentioned is directed exclusively against non-Muslims, forcing many native people to leave their neighborhoods, their cities, their countries.  Moreover, Muslims are now a swing vote not to be ignored.

The second thing you need to know is the importance of Mohammed the prophet.  His behavior is an example to all Muslims and cannot be criticized.  Now, if Mohammed had been a man of peace, let us say like Ghandi and Mother Theresa wrapped in one, there would be no problem.  But Mohammed was a warlord, a mass murderer, a pedophile, and had several marriages - at the same time.  Islamic tradition tells us how he fought in battles, how he had his enemies murdered and even had prisoners of war executed.  Mohammed himself slaughtered the Jewish tribe of Banu Qurayza.  If it is good for Islam, it is good.  If it is bad for Islam, it is bad.

Let no one fool you about Islam being a religion.  Sure, it has a god, and a here-after, and 72 virgins.  But in its essence Islam is a political ideology.  It is a system that lays down detailed rules for society and the life of every person.  Islam wants to dictate every aspect of life.  Islam means 'submission'.  Islam is not compatible with freedom and democracy, because what it strives for is sharia.  If you want to compare Islam to anything, compare it to communism or national-socialism, these are all totalitarian ideologies.

Now you know why Winston Churchill called Islam 'the most retrograde force in the world', and why he compared Mein Kampf to the Quran.  The public has wholeheartedly accepted the Palestinian narrative, and sees
Israel as the aggressor.  I have lived in this country and visited it dozens of times.  I support Israel.  First, because it is the Jewish homeland after two thousand years of exile up to and including Auschwitz, second because it is a democracy, and third because Israel is our first line of defense.

This tiny country is situated on the fault line of jihad, frustrating Islam's territorial advance.   Israel is facing the front lines of jihad, like Kashmir, Kosovo, the Philippines, Southern Thailand, Darfur in Sudan, Lebanon, and Aceh in Indonesia.   Israel is simply in the way.  The same way West-Berlin was during the Cold War.

The war against Israel is not a war against Israel.  It is a war against the West.  It is jihad.   Israel is simply receiving the blows that are meant for all of us.  If there would have been no Israel , Islamic imperialism would have found other venues to release its energy and its desire for conquest.  Thanks to Israeli parents who send their children to the army and lay awake at night, parents in Europe and America can sleep well and dream, unaware of the dangers looming.

Many in Europe argue in favor of abandoning Israel in order to address the grievances of our Muslim minorities.  But if Israel were, God forbid, to go down, it would not bring any solace to the West It would not mean our Muslim minorities would all of a sudden change their behavior, and accept our values.  On the contrary, the end of Israel would give enormous encouragement to the forces of Islam.  They would, and rightly so, see the demise of Israel as proof that the West is weak, and doomed.  The end of Israel would not mean the end of our problems with Islam, but only the beginning.  It would mean the start of the final battle for world domination.  If they can get Israel, they can get everything.  So-called journalists volunteer to label any and all critics of Islamization as a 'right-wing extremists' or 'racists'.  

 

In my country, the Netherlands, 60 percent of the population now sees the mass immigration of Muslims as the number one policy mistake since World War II.  And another 60 percent sees Islam as the biggest threat.  Yet there is a greater danger than terrorist attacks, the scenario of America as the last man standing.  The lights may go out in Europe faster than you can imagine.  An Islamic Europe means a Europe without freedom and democracy, an economic wasteland, an intellectual nightmare, and a loss of military might for America - as its allies will turn into enemies, enemies with atomic bombs.  With an Islamic Europe, it would be up to America alone to preserve the heritage of Rome, Athens and Jerusalem .

Dear friends, liberty is the most precious of gifts.  My generation never had to fight for this freedom, it was offered to us on a silver platter, by people who fought for it with their lives.  All throughout Europe , American cemeteries remind us of the young boys who never made it home, and whose memory we cherish.  My generation does not own this freedom; we are merely its custodians.  We can only hand over this hard won liberty to Europe 's children in the same state in which it was offered to us.  We cannot strike a deal with mullahs and imams.  Future generations would never forgive us.  We cannot squander our liberties.  We simply do not have the right to do so.

We have to take the necessary action now to stop this Islamic stupidity from destroying the free world that we know.
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 Please take the time to read and understand what is written here, Please send it to every free person that you know, it is so very important.

 

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QUESTION BY A HINDU:

"Mr Wilders, how could you omit the bestiality of ISLAM in Hindusthan, a peace loving country that never crossed her borders even once to invade Arabia to loot, plunder, abduct and rape and to occupy Mecca and raze Ka'aba to ground like the followers of Mohammed who destroyed our grand temples in Somnath, Ayodhya and Mathura, at the same time slaughtering and converting countless millions?

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